tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post6819531440217025008..comments2024-03-25T13:42:25.771-05:00Comments on Advance Indianaâ„¢: Election Commission Will Hear Complaints Over Eligibility Issues Of Ted Cruz And Marco RubioGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-36185814596405294552016-02-19T16:19:25.896-05:002016-02-19T16:19:25.896-05:00Mike C, The problem is that without the statute de...Mike C, The problem is that without the statute declaring you a citizen at birth under certain conditions, you aren't a citizen at all in the case of Cruz's birth, let alone a natural born citizen. The natural born citizen term is only used once in the constitution with respect to eligibility to be president. All other references in the document are to citizens, including the 14th Amendment, which makes any person born in the U.S. and subject to the jurisdiction thereof a U.S. citizen. McCain's citizenship was never legally tested. There was a Senate resolution declaring him a natural born citizen, but that's without legal effect. McCain's backers pointed out that the Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. territory at the time; however, other court decisions have found children of military citizens born on foreign military installations of the U.S. weren't automatically citizens at birth. I've previously discussed a case that was decided on that very question by one of the federal Court of Appeals last year, which is essentially left this kid born on a military base in Germany without a country to claim as his citizenship. Obama, likewise, was never legally determined by a federal court to be a U.S. citizen. The dozens of cases filed against him were all dismissed for lack of standing by the person bringing the lawsuit. Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-54422748194391549072016-02-19T15:53:39.436-05:002016-02-19T15:53:39.436-05:00I always understood that a natural born citizen is...I always understood that a natural born citizen is one who is a US Citizen at birth, as opposed to one who is naturalized. <br /><br />So if I was born, say, in Europe to US citizens who were on vacation there, I would be a natural born US citizen, because federal statute says I am a US citizen at birth in that scenario.<br /><br />This is why John McCain (born to US citizen parents in the Canal Zone), Barack Obama (even if born in Kenya, since his mother was a US citizen), and Ted Cruz (born to a US Citizen mother) are natural born US citizens. Contrast that with Arnold Schwarzenegger who was naturalized, and thus was not a natural born US citizen.MikeChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11461773443106885231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-42144218939289662032016-02-19T12:11:34.092-05:002016-02-19T12:11:34.092-05:00"Like so many other provisions of the U.S. Co..."Like so many other provisions of the U.S. Constitution, because it's too difficult to amend, those charged with interpreting it simply read it to mean what they want it to mean, regardless of the framers' original intent. At that point, the Constitution becomes meaningless."<br /><br />Truer words were never spoken. My liberal friends insist on a liberal, flexible Constitution in which judges are free to ignore the actual wording of the Constitution and the intent of the Founders. Yet they never can articulate a theory of jurisprudence which would prohibit judges from simply inserting their own policy views into their interpretation of the Constitution. Indeed they are okay with that as long as those polices are liberal ones.Paul K. Ogdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16137003328850866711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-9108189768397585982016-02-19T11:11:27.939-05:002016-02-19T11:11:27.939-05:00Neither Cruz nor Rubio stands a chance anyway. Cr...Neither Cruz nor Rubio stands a chance anyway. Cruz makes me gag. Never has the separation of church and state been more important. And Rubio doesn't have the votes to credibly challenge Trump. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-20634473228472017412016-02-19T10:11:34.569-05:002016-02-19T10:11:34.569-05:00maybe DNA testing? Appears some of these folks mi...maybe DNA testing? Appears some of these folks might actually qualify as plantsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com