tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post4325790439781127533..comments2024-03-25T13:42:25.771-05:00Comments on Advance Indianaâ„¢: Orentlicher Plan More Of The Same ApproachGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-47117328306494602862007-09-10T21:43:00.000-05:002007-09-10T21:43:00.000-05:006:13, it isn't thiat easy, but you're right, it IS...6:13, it isn't thiat easy, but you're right, it IS time to fix it.<BR/><BR/>I have some hope that the Kernan-Shepherd Commission will do that. If the legislature follows through with their recommendations, we might see some sweeping change,.<BR/><BR/>They're discussing one county-wide assessor (doing away with all township offices), as well as other stable taxes to replace the prop. tax.<BR/><BR/>I e-mailed Gov. Kernan witih some thoughts, and he repsonded within 24 hours.<BR/><BR/>I think all the commission members are tkaing this very seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-50329449409033339052007-09-10T18:13:00.000-05:002007-09-10T18:13:00.000-05:00No more band aids please, time to FIX it.No more band aids please, time to FIX it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-29368137956168054922007-09-10T14:53:00.000-05:002007-09-10T14:53:00.000-05:00Dr. Styring's conclusions ignore one basic ecnomic...Dr. Styring's conclusions ignore one basic ecnomic fact, that neocons refuse to admit: this ecnomy, and over time it happens often, is in recession.<BR/><BR/>Often, during such times, sales taxes wane. Big ticket items sell less often, herego, the state budget, if it depended more heavily on sales taxes, could be caught unprepared.<BR/><BR/>And make no mistake about it, without the $12 bil a month war expenditures, this economy would be in full-blown recession.<BR/><BR/>Another fact that's hard to avoid: if our sales taxes exceed thos eof neighboring states by much, big-ticket items, even in good times, will be bought in neighboring states for the 2 million Hoosiers within 35 minutes of a border.<BR/><BR/>There are ways to capture the appropriate state's sales tax, if all states agree to do so...but it's a sticky wicket.<BR/><BR/>Dr. Styring has been an economist for hire for quite some time. His past works include a few that had faulty conclusions.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, it's a problem with many economists of all political stripes. They're part-time politicians of a sort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5116390271550297662007-09-10T11:44:00.000-05:002007-09-10T11:44:00.000-05:00The word "economist" is not what gives him credibi...The word "economist" is not what gives him credibility, but rather his accomplishments that do. Just like the word "politician" carries no credibility.<BR/><BR/>I know about Sen. Lubbers. I agree with you. <BR/><BR/>However, no one that I've seen presents a better more workable solution than Dr. Styring. I don't see other governments bringing our politicians over to help them set up their currency and economic unions either. <BR/><BR/>As long as property tax exists, our property is in danger. <BR/><BR/>Ideally, we need the Fair Tax on a federal level. I have no doubt we will get there. And I have no doubt we will get property tax repealed in Indiana. It is what hoosiers want.<BR/><BR/>You mentioned you were not "on board", but did not mention what you see as the problem with Dr. Styring's solution. I promise you I'll get your concerns addressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-90649160593169980132007-09-10T11:35:00.000-05:002007-09-10T11:35:00.000-05:00Well, Melyssa, I've seen the video, and read much ...Well, Melyssa, I've seen the video, and read much of Dr. Styring's work over the last ten years.<BR/><BR/>Pardon me if I don't jump on board.<BR/><BR/>The word "eocnomist" in front of his name does not give him instant credibility. Far from it.<BR/><BR/>I want a full repeal, but not at his pace or using all of his ideas.<BR/><BR/>You expect any legislator to adopt your philosophy on taxes, 100%, and introduce legislation? David introduced a bill. It'll get debated and altered.<BR/><BR/>I suggest you take a short walk over and talk to Sen. Lubbers, who, frankly, has bene more a part of the problem on taxes and education than most folks realize.<BR/><BR/>Then get back to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-23244918433234451652007-09-10T10:42:00.000-05:002007-09-10T10:42:00.000-05:00In spite of the fact that many, many people talk t...In spite of the fact that many, many people talk to David O. at the protests and tell him they want nothing but property tax REPEAL, he ignores their wishes.<BR/><BR/>Economist Dr. Bill Styring gives the answer and he says the only answer IS repeal and the total elimination of property tax. <BR/><BR/>Dr. Styring's video which outlines the only workable solution is available at:<BR/>www.HoosiersForFairTaxation.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-27750048971984175212007-09-10T07:45:00.000-05:002007-09-10T07:45:00.000-05:00I give David credit for trying.But history, specif...I give David credit for trying.<BR/><BR/>But history, specifically Gov. Bowen's stupid plan in 1973, should've been a better teacher.<BR/><BR/>We need a permnent fix. I'm waiting on the Kernan-Shepherd Commission's findings. And hoping.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5818294429089832652007-09-10T07:12:00.000-05:002007-09-10T07:12:00.000-05:00Orentlicher was on TV when this mess came about. ...Orentlicher was on TV when this mess came about. At that time he said he was for limits. What happened? We need hard limits on property taxes. % caps with assessed value do not work, values can just go up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-80467032392101104492007-09-10T06:49:00.000-05:002007-09-10T06:49:00.000-05:00I agree.With this plan, not only would they get a ...I agree.<BR/>With this plan, not only would they get a higher income tax increase, then also in the future they can raise property taxes again. <BR/>Just more of the same stupid ideas.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com