tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post4250196568276453545..comments2024-03-25T13:42:25.771-05:00Comments on Advance Indiana™: Journal-Gazette Breaks Media Silence On Bayhs' Cash MachineGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-22988078651836569002007-12-17T09:44:00.000-05:002007-12-17T09:44:00.000-05:00ms. bayh has a long history of this behavior but n...ms. bayh has a long history of this behavior but now with increasing stakes.<BR/><BR/>when he was still governor, i enrolled in a class she was to teach as adjunct faculty at butler. she did not show for a single session nor did she ever make an appearance. a replacement was found for every session. we never even saw her in the flesh.<BR/><BR/>it's probably still on her cv that she taught college course. ba ha ha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-57507616664842622062007-12-16T13:22:00.000-05:002007-12-16T13:22:00.000-05:00The shame for Birch Bayh is not that he lost but t...The shame for Birch Bayh is not that he lost but that he lost to such an brainless idiot as Dan Quayle. Quayle later became the favorite target for comedians for lack of I.Q. points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1369146578273649492007-12-16T12:35:00.000-05:002007-12-16T12:35:00.000-05:00Many of the Senate's most-esteemed liberal senator...Many of the Senate's most-esteemed liberal senators went down to defeat in the Reagan landslide election of 1980 and Indiana was no exception. Quayle's election had very little to do with the Geist heist, although your recitation of the facts pertaining thereto are pretty much accurate as I recall. Also, at that time, Indiana never had re-elected a senator to a fourth term. Lugar is the first senator in Indiana history to serve more than 18 years.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-70367109441093630372007-12-16T11:58:00.000-05:002007-12-16T11:58:00.000-05:00Now I recall, Gary...under then-Atty. Gen. Griffin...Now I recall, Gary...under then-Atty. Gen. Griffin Bell, I believe, the infamous "brown envelope" was transported among top prosecutors, and no one wanted to take it over.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps because the charges were just not strong enough?<BR/><BR/>And I also remember the Quayle loss. I was working on Cap Hill at the time. Lobbyists, staffers, and those close to the process--on both sides of the aisle--were stunned, and embarrassed, that a man of Quayle's limited intellect had defeated Birch Bayh.<BR/><BR/>Quayle was greatly aided by his uncle's newspaper empire. And they were all aided by the Moses family--of Indpls. Water Co. fame. Because Bayh had lobbied hard against the provisions that allowed ratepayers of the water company, to foot the entire bill for Geist and Morse, whilst the Moses kin and friends reaped huge real estate windfalls from the Geist/Morse projects. Those profits should've gone to ratepayers. <BR/><BR/>Bayh's payback for bucking the Quayle-Moses nonsense? A lightweight Congressman was heavily-funded by the hard right and beat Birch in the Reagan landslide.<BR/><BR/>A sorry day in national and Indianapolitics, to be sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-67013013409885575762007-12-16T10:43:00.000-05:002007-12-16T10:43:00.000-05:00I'm sure Birch is quite proud of Evan, anon 10:32....I'm sure Birch is quite proud of Evan, anon 10:32. He's been making bucco bucks as a D.C. lobbyist since he was defeated by Dan Quayle. Anon 10:01, I'm quite right about the Tongsun Park connection. The Senate Ethics Committee delivered a famous brown envelope on Bayh and Park to the Carter Justice Department rather than look into the allegations seriously. Many people forget that the Committee fingered two dead senators for accepting money from Park--Hubert Humphrey and John McClellan. From the American Spectator: "The House and Senate investigations into the so-called Koreagate scandal ended on an eerie note when it was discovered that the only two solons whom the legislators definitely judged guilty of actionable offenses—Senator Hubert Humphrey and Senator John McClellan—had died months before...<BR/>......On October 16 the Senate Committee on Ethics gingerly transported Senator Bayh's Koreagate testimony to the Justice Department in a plain brown envelope"Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-14486444290493494132007-12-16T10:32:00.000-05:002007-12-16T10:32:00.000-05:00Birch Bayh who was a real Democrat must be so emba...Birch Bayh who was a real Democrat must be so embarrassed and disappointed in what his son has done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-11464705584238824592007-12-16T10:01:00.000-05:002007-12-16T10:01:00.000-05:00When you're right, Gary, I'm with ya. But all I c...When you're right, Gary, I'm with ya. But all I can say about this post is: "wow. I hope I never get on your bad side."<BR/><BR/>You bashed Mayor Peterson ad naseum. To your credit, you haven't gloated. But it was, by any measure, way over the top.<BR/><BR/>I've known the Bayhs for a long time. Anyone who underestimates Susan as a dizzy blonde, does so at their own peril. She's sharp--ask anyone who worked with her at Lilly.<BR/><BR/>When she began her work at Lilly, Evan was Sec. of State. As such, he oversaw annual filings and securities enforcement, for all Indiana corporations. Her legal speciality is business law. What was she supposed to do?<BR/><BR/>I know for a fact they don't discuss her corporate board work. Except to arrange the boys' busy schedules when she's gone to meetings.<BR/><BR/>Political spouses have a difficult row to hoe. Sometimes, they go over the line. Sometimes, they don't. <BR/><BR/>Where's your selective indignation for Dick Lugar? Smart guy, but on multiple occasions he voted for tax breaks for Thomas L. Green Co., his family's business, before they sold it.<BR/><BR/>And, their DC home was valued at about half that, modest by many DC standards, before it tragically burned a few years ago. They decided to do what many of us might have done in similar circumstances---they took insurance proceeds, paid off a mortgage, upgraded, and took advantage of the only real tax break left to us--a large mortgage.<BR/><BR/>I could be wrong, but the only Park connection I recall was between Hartke and the Korean businessman. Hartke, God rest his soul, was for sale to the highest bidder. Although he was not alone in that category at the time, it was a scant defense.<BR/><BR/>Birch is also known as the author of more Constitutional amendments than any human.<BR/><BR/>Not a bad legacy.<BR/><BR/>Evan's policies as governor often irritated me, even though we are friends. He's more conservative asleep than his father ever will be awake. Yeah, it's frustrating, but he always listens. And, unlike his father, he's not slipped ionto that tragic DC mist. He's still a Hoosier.<BR/><BR/>Lighten up, huh, Gary? Your fangs are showing. A mere recitation of the FWJG story (which is excellent) might have sufficed, and then let the posters log in however they wish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-91653057711535499752007-12-16T09:29:00.000-05:002007-12-16T09:29:00.000-05:00How long before we see mention of this on Blue Ind...How long before we see mention of this on Blue Indiana or Taking Down Words?<BR/><BR/>Oh, that's right, forever.<BR/><BR/>Unless they decide to cast aspersions on the reporter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-71273059322238469232007-12-16T09:12:00.000-05:002007-12-16T09:12:00.000-05:00An old Spencer Tracy movie has him saying in parph...An old Spencer Tracy movie has him saying in parphrase: "The only difference between a Republican and a Democrat is that one is in office and the other is out!" It amazes me that so many politicians (MOST?) are elected relatively poor and with their investments in blind trusts come out MANY times richer. And we keep buying the idea that we are NOT being governed by a rich oligarchy. I guess PT Barnum was correct 160 years ago. "There is a sucker born every minute!" Tell me why ALL the top tier candidates in both parties support our staying in oil rich Iraq. When in doubt about why something is happening, always ask: "Who profits?" We can not afford our current policies. What do we think is going to happen to our economy if we stay in Iraq and keep spending more than we take in-WAY WAY more? Do you really think Social Security and Medicare will survive as something worthwhile for when you retire. The rich will NOT be hurt but the rest of us will. If we do not elect either Kucinich or Ron Paul in 2008, we are frigging doomed. But I know that is too extreme, but I will say I told you so later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-13026205396052748902007-12-16T08:50:00.000-05:002007-12-16T08:50:00.000-05:00I have commented for years that Evan Bayh is reall...I have commented for years that Evan Bayh is really a republican. His votes and his business connections prove that I am right. Time to elect a Democrat in his seat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com