Police tell us the men, and their friends, had spent the evening at the club Cloud Nine on West 38th street.
As they were leaving the club, they say some people outside were looking at their cars. There was an argument, and the Tinsley brothers and their friends left in three cars, all registered to Jamaal Tinsley, who was not present.
Tinsley, his brothers and their friends tell police they drove downtown and shots were fired at them near the Conrad Hotel at Illinois and Washington.
Police say Joey Qatato -- a trainer for the Pacers -- was shot in the arm. He's in good condition.
While police were investigating, they discovered one man in the entourage had an outstanding warrant in Georgia, he was arrested.
Police say one member of the Tinsley party, who is licensed to have a gun, may have returned fire.
Professional sporting teams add so much to Indianapolis' world-class image, don't they?
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I am a woman, I don't know, so I am going to assume that Cloud Nine is a strip joint. Am I right?
I am a man and I dont know but knowing Tinsley it is probably a strip club with thugs and drugs....
The blog IndyUndercover has now gone under. Last post was today. That should make the Pacer's happy.
"Professional sporting teams add so much to Indianapolis' world-class image, don't they?"
Actually, I believe having professional sporting teams DO in fact help make Indy a world-class city. Think of other cities where pro teams do not exist. Without them, would Indy's image just be that of another Omaha, Albequerqe, Columbus, or Des Moines?
Does it suck when a player on one of our teams is involved in something like this? Absolutely. Should it result in a ridiculous blanket statement like the one made by Gary? No.
Speaking of, Gary, why not give equal time to the good things done by the pro athletes on this city's professional teams. You know, the things that do add to our city's image. i.e. Manning's donation to the St. V Children's Hospital or any of the other numerous good-deed charitable actions they take.
10:34, you mean the good things they do for tax writeoffs?
An overwhelming majority of the pro athletes in this town are good citizens.
It's jsut that most of them aren't Pacers.
How much longer is Bird gonna put up with this thuggish shoot-em-down attitude? They're hanging out around folks with freaking semi-automatic weapons for cryin' out loud, Which are still legal for reasons known only to God...
Jamaal's brother had his back. He gave chase for five blocks, firing shots randomly into the vehicle in retaliation. Vigilantism has a new poster boy.
Geeeeesh.
Here's a thought, brothers Tinsley: use the cell inside that Rolls and call Nine Freaking One Freaking One. You'd have had multiple cars of Indy's finest on your tail in minutes.
But that would've deprived you of your right to shoot-em-up.
Not one more dollar for Pacers tickets until this thug is gone. He's a lousy shooter, too...and he dribbles too much. Shooter of the basketball, that is...
Ain't the Brothers Tinsley a fine example for urban youth?
I have purchased my last Pacers ticket until the Simons or Bird gets rid of the thugs like Tinsley.
Journalistically, I have to take minor issue with your opening..:-)
Not really accurate to say "yet another Pacer player" involved in a late night incident... because it's the same freaking J. Tinsley again! (granted, I know he's not the only one...) He needs to go. The days when we had guys like Reggie, Antonio Davis, Mark Jackson.... I miss them.
They're hanging out around folks with freaking semi-automatic weapons for cryin' out loud, Which are still legal for reasons known only to God...
Legal because in this country we don't disarm those who can't afford private cops and gated housing additions.
Just more of the "Bird" droppings.
What a fall Indy has taken since Larry legend returned.
Why the hell is a multi-million dollar athlete hanging out on West 38th street in the first place? Answer...you can take the thug out of the ghetto, but no matter how much money you give him, you will never take the ghetto out of the thug. Tinsley is a prime example of this.
11:04,
First, do you even understand how deductibility works? It's not a dollar for dollar deduction. If one wanted to enrich himself through a deduction, there are ways to do that and giving money for a children's hospital isn't one of them.
Second, so what? Look at all the Glicks, Simons and Lillys have given for our city. Hey, they got a tax deduction though, so those contributions are somehow lessened, right?
2:07, The Glicks, The Simons and the Lilly's have helped make Indianapolis the hellhole it become with their genreous tax breaks and special political favors on the backs of the workingman that have paid their bills for a generation.
Get a clue you mindless scrap!
According to Cloud 9's website it is a bar and grill with live jazz, hip-hop, top 40 etc., plus dancing.
Perhaps Tinsley was in a legit place for once.
Personally, I do not know why the Pacer organization does not require these guy to have some kind of body guard/babysitter with them when they go out. You invest millions in a player, and then let them wander around without anyone to keep them out of trouble? Sounds foolish to me.
Shofar said, "Personally, I do not know why the Pacer organization does not require these guy to have some kind of body guard/babysitter with them when they go out. You invest millions in a player, and then let them wander around without anyone to keep them out of trouble? Sounds foolish to me."
The team's equipment manager was with him. He's the one who got shot. You would have thought he would have steered him away from trouble.
1:19--it's attitudes like yours that help put sem-automatic weapons on the streets.
Ridiculous. We have police. No privte citizen needs these kinds of weapons.
So, Tinsley's brother gave pursuit, shooting up from the car window around Monument Circle?
Looks like the Tinsley brothers have something in common. Neither one of them can shoot worth a damn.
I was beside the Tinsley Rolls in traffic late in September. His windows were cracked a little. Stopped at a light near downtown, there was the distinctive air of weed wafting around the car. Real classy.
Larry, get rid of him. Yesterday.
"Ridiculous. We have police. No privte citizen needs these kinds of weapons."
I have these kind of weapons- for the protection of my family. Yes we have police and they are covering huge beats thanks to the miracle we call consolidation. Have you called 911 lately? The last time I did I was put on hold for three minutes. That, my friend, is ridiculous and could mean all the difference to an unarmed citizen in danger.
2:07, The Glicks, The Simons and the Lilly's have helped make Indianapolis the hellhole it become with their genreous tax breaks and special political favors on the backs of the workingman that have paid their bills for a generation.
Get a clue you mindless scrap!
Yeah, screw that Andrew Carnegie, too. Dumb yokels in middle American don't have any use for a library!
"Professional sporting teams add so much to Indianapolis' world-class image, don't they?"
No one hates the Colts more than I do, but I don't believe it's fair to implicitly lump them in with the thugs of the sports world like the Pacers. Actually, most of the sports world is clean, particlarly the NHL and MLB (unless you count steroids in the latter). The NFL has had some issues of late, which they are trying to clean up, but even at their worse they are no match for the level of criminality that has overtaken the NBA, at considerable cost to its revenues, attendance and TV ratings.
"Ridiculous. We have police."
We will be at your house next Tuesday to install your Telescreen. Need to make sure you stay safe.
While I'd never try to withhold your right to have guns, having semi-automatic rapidfire machine guns is just stupid.
Are you, uh, compensating for something?
Overkill to the max. No pun intended. Dontcha think a shotgun in the nose of an intruder or someone threatening your family, will do as much potential damage, as a cannon?
"They're hanging out around folks with freaking semi-automatic weapons for cryin' out loud, Which are still legal for reasons known only to God..."
Semi-automatic simply means the gun fires once when you pull the trigger once, and then you can repeat the action.
Semi-automatic firearms include my shotguns, .22s, hunting rifles, et al. These will be legally, privately owned as long as there is a Republic.
Overkill to the max. No pun intended. Dontcha think a shotgun in the nose of an intruder or someone threatening your family, will do as much potential damage, as a cannon?
Ask the shop owners during the LA riots who used their AR-15s to stay alive where the police were? Oh thats right, the police fleed the area!! Only someone with a sick mind thinks law abiding, thinking humans shouldn't be able to own a firearm which could allow them to stay alive when the police are NOT around. Detroit, LA, Benton Harbour, and Toledo are recent examples of why every household should have a rifle. The police can't be there 24/7.
The article in today's Star (12/11/2007) sure seems to make poor Jamaal out to be the victim -- and Kravitz says the same thing.
Well, the problem is, Jamaal is not the victim. WTF was he doing in that part of town, at that dive, acting like Mr. Big Man, in the first place?
Jamaal can admit that he made a bad decision, but he's not paying for that bad decision. The equipment manager is.
Jamaal should be out for at least 5 games and the Pacers should be actively shopping him around. Not that anyone would want him, but on the other hand, Sacremento did take Artest.
And to be honest, I'd rather have Artest back than keep Jamaal.
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