tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post8757374508265070109..comments2024-03-25T13:42:25.771-05:00Comments on Advance Indianaâ„¢: Ivy Tech Wants To Demolish Historic BuildingGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-71983790770678218192008-07-21T00:22:00.000-05:002008-07-21T00:22:00.000-05:00Come on Roger are all people lazy. When I come dow...Come on Roger are all people lazy. When I come downtown to a ball game I could care less how far I park from the stadium. The walk to the ball park is part of the charm of taking my kids to a game. Ever been to Wrigley, now that is ugly parking. Why the city can't go in and clean up the old Bush Stadium is a crime, tear it down and put in some ball fields and a monument. Lets create some ball (don't care what sport) fields and let some inner city kids have fun!guy77moneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07248410686603913517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-89116093402462024122008-07-20T06:01:00.000-05:002008-07-20T06:01:00.000-05:00It is a cool building I took a Autocad class down ...It is a cool building I took a Autocad class down there a long time ago. The question would be how much money would it take to renovate it versus putting up a new pleasing architectural structure. That's the key in my book. The neighborhood deserves a structure that matches or exceeds the present one. Just a thought.guy77moneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07248410686603913517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-43280676003059578472008-07-20T05:39:00.000-05:002008-07-20T05:39:00.000-05:00spooknp - Please.Ivy Tech agreed to keep the build...spooknp - Please.<BR/><BR/>Ivy Tech agreed to keep the building and is no breaking its promise.<BR/><BR/>People who live in historic areas voted to become historic - Woodruff Place for example.<BR/><BR/>Bush stadium sits idle because white people wanted a new stadium rather than attend baseball games in a black neighborhood. But attendance at the new stadium is less than at the old one, because parking at the new stadium is bloody inconvenient.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05237857691537702382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-39263722999391823302008-07-20T04:14:00.000-05:002008-07-20T04:14:00.000-05:00spook, your whole argument should have been consid...<B>spook, your whole argument should have been considered by Ivy Tech before they made their agreement to preserve the building.</B><BR/><BR/>What did the agreement say about the condition of the building? Could it be that the facts were somewhat fudged to make it appear the building was in better condition than it was? Even if you buy it for just $1 doesn't mean you should have to spend an additional million (or maybe even $5,000,000) just to keep a part of history.<BR/><BR/><B>Yes, new windows and other energy efficient solutions will cost, but saving historical buildings is worth the effort.</B><BR/><BR/>Then instead of coming here and complaining, why don't you donate the first $10,000 to a preservation fund that will be given to Ivy Tech? Something tells me there is no dollar limit in your mind, as long as someone else is paying the bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-12786508142799886042008-07-19T23:46:00.000-05:002008-07-19T23:46:00.000-05:00There's lots of history stored in old building, bu...There's lots of history stored in old building, but lots of energy too. It took lots of energy and resources to construct the building. It would take more energy to tear it down. Then more again to buy a new building. It makes sense to reuse buildings just like most things in our life. Consumer culture has taught us to just throw things away, and buy new. In a world with limited resources and energy, I think it's best to find ways to reuse the old.Eclecticvibehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15848437748997209589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-54749606309546330702008-07-19T13:31:00.000-05:002008-07-19T13:31:00.000-05:00What a shame. We seem to only know how to tear do...What a shame. We seem to only know how to tear down. Why does it take such a fight to save old structures with historical value?<BR/><BR/>I detest the new style of buildings - cold, square concrete structures with very little appeal.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me it would be cheaper to retool an old building than to tear it down and build from the ground up.<BR/><BR/>Yes, new windows and other energy efficient solutions will cost, but saving historical buildings is worth the effort.<BR/><BR/>Older, historical buildings are generally found at the core of a city, and as we continue as a society in our crusade to expand ever outward, eventually, the old buildings will be gone unless protected.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02933221051732922894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-83331887186102944562008-07-19T12:43:00.000-05:002008-07-19T12:43:00.000-05:00Sure seems to have been alot of that going on over...<B>Sure seems to have been alot of that going on over the last few years.</B><BR/><BR/>Try century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-87757854186512288132008-07-19T12:27:00.000-05:002008-07-19T12:27:00.000-05:00That old building has a lot of family history in i...That old building has a lot of family history in it for me. My brother was born there in 1962. I also had a sister and a brother born there in 1964 and 1970, respectively. Neither left the hospital, passing away a few days after birth. I was born on the Northside at the new St. Vincent.Jon E. Easterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02463536746233150209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-52802943593945693902008-07-19T11:53:00.000-05:002008-07-19T11:53:00.000-05:00spook, your whole argument should have been consid...spook, your whole argument should have been considered by Ivy Tech before they made their agreement to preserve the building.<BR/><BR/>Since they received a significant discount on buying the building and land, their decision is appropriately subject to government oversight and control.<BR/><BR/>Whether the City will exercise oversight and control, or simply punt because it's easier to do nothing and let the building deteriorate, is another story.<BR/><BR/>I'm betting that Gary thinks this is an important story because of the whiff of backroom smoke around it.thundermutthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493735351984131731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-79347374588668194952008-07-19T11:50:00.000-05:002008-07-19T11:50:00.000-05:00Now apparently gutted by scrap-metal thieves, empt...Now apparently gutted by scrap-metal thieves, empty and in disrepair since 2003, once distinguished by being at or near the top of 'most crime ridden place in Indy', I don't connect 'historic' with Weyerbacher Terrace. Not at all.Bart Lieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01294734264133374462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-29244800599114317262008-07-19T10:51:00.000-05:002008-07-19T10:51:00.000-05:00Interesting stuff, no worries about what you commi...Interesting stuff, no worries about what you committ to in public as long as you can work a political deal in the back room. Sure seems to have been alot of that going on over the last few years.<BR/><BR/>PeaceJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07243079362504708235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1355748566966263842008-07-19T10:47:00.000-05:002008-07-19T10:47:00.000-05:00Imagine the outcry if Ivy Tech had proposed to kno...Imagine the outcry if Ivy Tech had proposed to knock down the old AUL headquarters building back in the 80's. <BR/><BR/>They knew better then, and they know better now.<BR/><BR/>If they didn't want to preserve and maintain the building, they didn't have to sign an agreement with the City and HUD that they would do so...and then it would have been someone else's headache.thundermutthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493735351984131731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-87621832039081673212008-07-19T09:40:00.000-05:002008-07-19T09:40:00.000-05:00While I appricate old buildings, I think sometimes...While I appricate old buildings, I think sometimes we go a little too far with historic preservation. If government is going to force a company/owner to keep their property historic, then they should be responsible for the additional monies it takes to make that happen. Having to special order windows of a size and style that has been obsolete for decades is just plain stupid. Maybe we should demand that all those new cars coming onto the market with a historic look (the new mustangs, etc.) not have air bags and other current trend safety features?<BR/><BR/>History is just that, history. Use photographs, newer construction with a similar feel, but current construction practices, etc.. Historic preservation is why I think Bush Stadium will be allowed to just collapse into nothing. No one wants to buy it, fearing some judge demanding the new owner to spend millions more preserving what is left. As such, the best thing for those property owners to do now is just let these old buildings crumble away with time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com