tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post7129820869567411240..comments2024-03-25T13:42:25.771-05:00Comments on Advance Indianaâ„¢: More Reaction To Peterson PlanGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-44546174286363334182007-07-14T14:00:00.000-05:002007-07-14T14:00:00.000-05:00Here's an idea Wilson. Identify all of Peterson's...Here's an idea Wilson. Identify all of Peterson's over-paid butt kissers making over $75k a year from public money and lay them off. The public cannot afford it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-18843205745769526402007-07-14T13:02:00.000-05:002007-07-14T13:02:00.000-05:005:57 If the Mexican Government is getting free ren...5:57 If the Mexican Government is getting free rent at a city-owned building that means that my TAX money is paying for the expenses of the Mexican Government!!!!!!!<BR/><BR/>I do not live in Mexico and my tax money should not be going to give their government office space!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-90688904238273786072007-07-14T11:03:00.000-05:002007-07-14T11:03:00.000-05:00Actually 10:14 it is the partisan hacks on both si...Actually 10:14 it is the partisan hacks on both sides of the aisle that make this blog tiresome to read. Gary calls out "government behaving badly" on both sides of the aisle, then we have to read tedious posts by Wilson claiming the Dems aren't at fault, defending them at all costs and a bazillion anonymous Faux News trolls spewing "tax and spend" Democrats are at fault for EVERYTHING.<BR/><BR/>We have painfully few politicians Rep. or Dem that understand that huge changes need to be made in our Indiana government and way to many voters that are to busy voting party lines like they are watching a freaking football game. <BR/>Wake up people....both sides have sold "the people" out and corporations and lobbyists have won this round. If we do not change our mindset, this situation will never change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-88071460720594175722007-07-14T10:14:00.000-05:002007-07-14T10:14:00.000-05:00I THOUGHT WILSON WAS NOT ALLOWED TO POST ON THIS B...I THOUGHT WILSON WAS NOT ALLOWED TO POST ON THIS BLOG.<BR/>He is a nuisance that derails the the discussion of what Gary posts. As a result, the subject at hand goes on to another subject. Wilson does this on every board I read.<BR/>He's ruining your blog Gary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-75029547742099059782007-07-14T07:28:00.000-05:002007-07-14T07:28:00.000-05:00Why should I answer any personal questions from a ...Why should I answer any personal questions from a nosy anonymous nobody who is ashamed to use her own name? Snooping while hiding behind a false face? It seems kinda underhanded, sneaky and wrong...<BR/><BR/>Of course, this thread is about <B>property tax solutions</B>, not me like some trifling busybodies are trying to divert it off to.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-9139122040270721792007-07-13T22:04:00.000-05:002007-07-13T22:04:00.000-05:00Wilson: Do you work for a living, or receive welf...Wilson: Do you work for a living, or receive welfare?<BR/><BR/>Inquiring minds want to know!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-55605494367636643702007-07-13T21:51:00.000-05:002007-07-13T21:51:00.000-05:005:57 Is the Mexican government getting FREE space ...5:57 Is the Mexican government getting FREE space at a city building? Why?<BR/><BR/>-I especially want to know since Wishard Hospital has so many Mexicans in the waiting room, not paying for medical treatment...and so many Mexicans sit in the jail getting free food & medical care without paying taxes, and causing many (if not most) of the uninsured car crashes in the city!<BR/><BR/>Why is our mayor catering to these criminals/freeloaders/invaders from another country?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-48965990953676062772007-07-13T21:35:00.000-05:002007-07-13T21:35:00.000-05:00I just found your blog, but I have to admit. Just...I just found your blog, but I have to admit. Just reading this makes Wilson look like an operative for the DNC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-46334328392242256122007-07-13T21:15:00.000-05:002007-07-13T21:15:00.000-05:008:46 has a good point!Wasn't the bar in the Center...8:46 has a good point!<BR/><BR/>Wasn't the bar in the Center Twp-owned building found legal after "The Machine" fixed the decisions?<BR/><BR/>Was the wife of the city-council majority leader really the Judge who granted the variance?<BR/><BR/>Wow! This stinks!<BR/><BR/>Wilson, are you a relative, too? -or do you just hold a make-work, do-nothing PATRONAGE job? -I know, you are The Machine's spokesman, aren't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-39653099634247172342007-07-13T20:50:00.000-05:002007-07-13T20:50:00.000-05:00There are bars in the Indianapolis Airport in gove...There are bars in the Indianapolis Airport in government owned buildings. There are bars on the IUPUI campus in government owned buildings. There is a bar in Union Station which is government owned. There is a bar in the Ronald Reagan Building in DC government owned. None of these are actually operated by government but merely tenants who pay rent, just as in Center Township.<BR/><BR/>As I've said before, last year the feeble GOP candidates in Center Township made this restaurant their major issue but they were defeated by the voters by better than 3-to-1. But some folk are still "The Sorest Losers of 2006"...<BR/><BR/>Simple solution: if you still dont like the restaurant, boycott it! I doubt if you'll ever be missed...Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-28122168172013352432007-07-13T20:46:00.000-05:002007-07-13T20:46:00.000-05:008:01, 'Wilson', Did I understand you right?Are you...8:01, 'Wilson', Did I understand you right?<BR/><BR/>Are you admitting that Indianapolis is not the political Machine that Chicago was in the 1960's & 70's?<BR/><BR/>Wasn't the bar found legal after The Machine fixed the decisions?<BR/><BR/>Wasn't the Judge that granted the variance, the WIFE of the City-Council Majority leader?<BR/><BR/>Wasn't one of the owners of the bar the WIFE of the City-Council President? Didn't I read that the City-Council President told a reporter that he 'doesn't know' about his wife's ventures???????<BR/><BR/>This is Machine politics, and smells of corruption!<BR/><BR/>Peeeewwwwww! <BR/><BR/>P. S. In the Old Chicago Machine, how many corrupt politicians went to jail? <BR/><BR/>P. P. S. S. Isn't the former Chicago City Council President under indictment today? Was he called "Fast Eddie"?<BR/><BR/>P. P. P. S. S. S. Maybe the U. S. Attorney knows what to do, Wilson!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-42699834564696399892007-07-13T20:38:00.000-05:002007-07-13T20:38:00.000-05:00Oh, Wilson, just because it is legal, does NOT mak...Oh, Wilson, just because it is legal, does NOT make it right! <BR/><BR/>Why is there a BAR in a government building? <BR/><BR/>Why doesn't the White House or Congress have a tavern? -I guess I have to spell it out: Because it is WRONG! Taxpayers do not provide bars in government buildings. <BR/><BR/>Government should have NOTHING to do with bars! That is a private enterprise LICENSED and regulated by the government.<BR/><BR/>You cannot make an excuse for this one, Wilson!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-66168165319072370172007-07-13T20:34:00.000-05:002007-07-13T20:34:00.000-05:00Wilson, I'm NOT giving it a rest. (You, sir, are ...Wilson, I'm NOT giving it a rest. (You, sir, are a waste.)<BR/><BR/>WE TAXPAYERS are suing the Democrat Assessor for incompetence, and WE TAXPAYERS are paying for his legal counsel....anything wrong with this picture? (Said again)<BR/><BR/>Wilson, are you suggesting that the TAXPAYER'S class-action lawsuit is 'frivolous'? With the car dealership valued far less than a nearby home? With a house valued more than a nearby grocery store lot? <BR/><BR/>No, Wilson, it is not frivolous! It is calling out incompetence! The Democrat is incompetent, was told his assessment is wrong, yet did nothing to correct it. He was basing his malfeasance on there being enough TAX & SPEND Democrats, like you, to blow smoke and confuse people. <BR/><BR/>The law suit received a change of venue and is valid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-31195219649188117422007-07-13T20:01:00.000-05:002007-07-13T20:01:00.000-05:00Elected officials often have to deal for nutty and...Elected officials often have to deal for nutty and frivolous lawsuits against them at taxpayer expense. It's a part of the job. Even for Republicans...<BR/><BR/>The issue of the *B*A*R* was dealt with in multiple public hearings and an election by the voters. <I>Give it a rest!</I> It's quite legal despite what a few nutterballs may still imagine.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-16397962449475122482007-07-13T19:32:00.000-05:002007-07-13T19:32:00.000-05:00Wilson, it's the Democrat COUNTY Assessor that WE ...Wilson, it's the Democrat COUNTY Assessor that WE TAXPAYERS are suing for incompetence, and WE TAXPAYERS are paying for his legal counsel....anything wrong with this picture?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4411038232289964372007-07-13T19:31:00.001-05:002007-07-13T19:31:00.001-05:007:42 is spot-on.And once again, Wilson defends a r...7:42 is spot-on.<BR/><BR/>And once again, Wilson defends a ridiculous system, primarily because it's inhabited mostly by Democrats.<BR/><BR/>A more simple system, without layers, is one county-wide assessor overseeing a profesionally-done process. And the hired staff could perform spot checks on property to make sure the hired appraisers are doing their jobs correctly. It'll happen--the current township system is rife with incompetence, and taxpayers will no longer tolerate it. Incompetence is costly.<BR/><BR/>The hardest part of that system, would be the initial gathering/upload of information.<BR/><BR/>Are you aware, for instance, that in one northern township, until 2002, there was a gap of at least two decades of non-noted room additions, garages, etc.? <BR/><BR/>Now, that township links building permits to the assessment process. But there are hundreds, if not thousands, of remodels not on the records.<BR/><BR/>Which will never, ever get us to the point we need to be: equity among properties, consistency.<BR/><BR/>And Center, well...it's even worse.<BR/><BR/>By the way, oversight of 150 janitors, while their jobs are important, is nothing compared to oversight of thousands of tax parcels.<BR/><BR/>Not even close.<BR/><BR/>And that's pre-supposing Akers is qualified. WhHch he's not.<BR/><BR/>Lord help us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-35503502427877475922007-07-13T19:31:00.000-05:002007-07-13T19:31:00.000-05:00Wilson, will you stick to the point? You just try ...Wilson, will you stick to the point? <BR/><BR/>You just try to BLOW SMOKE on the topic at hand. You keep trying to defend the indefensible! <BR/><BR/>TAX & SPEND is all the Democrats want, at the county or township level, it doesn't matter...because they are all part of "The Machine". <BR/><BR/>That's why the BAR, 300 East, is in a TAXPAYER owned GOVERNMENT building! <BR/><BR/>Remember, Wilson, Monroe Gray told the press (with great arrogance) that he "does not know" what his wife (part owner) does....and, as President of the City-County Council, his Majority Leader's wife, just happens to be the JUDGE who grant the variance to allow the BAR!<BR/><BR/>Oh, The Machine also granted the BAR to have its parking lot on city park property, removing an inner-city playground.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-81192306100755205012007-07-13T19:24:00.000-05:002007-07-13T19:24:00.000-05:00I'll tell you what, we need to ELIMINATE township ...I'll tell you what, we need to ELIMINATE township government in the Consolidated City! <BR/><BR/>Townships may be OK in rural areas, but all they do in a Consolidated City is create corruption & patronage, and TAXES!<BR/><BR/>There is ABSOLUTELY no need for any Township government in Indianapolis!<BR/><BR/>If we sold those Center Twp-owned buildings (yes, one has a BAR in it) and FIRED the unnecessary patronage employees, the TAXPAYERS would have a savings and return of several million dollars, which could be used to hire police, build a jail, or lower taxes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-49621449014981043232007-07-13T19:19:00.000-05:002007-07-13T19:19:00.000-05:00The Township Assessors have long been a part of co...The Township Assessors have long been a part of county government - not a part of township government. Their budget is a part of the county budget - they report to the City-County Council, not the Township Board.<BR/><BR/>Elected assessors are <B>managers</B>, not working appraisers as such. Assessors/appraisers are their hired employees or contractual workers. Akers has long had managerial experience with a very large staff - his new group of workers is quite small comparatively.<BR/><BR/>Most Hoosier Township Assessors work part-time -- elected officials dont punch a timeclock - they have to perform to meet statutory requirements and voter satisfaction.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-78060394321934915122007-07-13T18:59:00.000-05:002007-07-13T18:59:00.000-05:00One of the brightest and best public servants in t...One of the brightest and best public servants in the county, Dr. Eugene White, just did his taxpayers a favor by delaying implementation of the next phase of IPS bonds. Untl this mess can be sorted out.<BR/><BR/>May his tribe multiply. IPS is hopelessly broken, but he's giving it the old college try, and he's sensitive to his patrons.<BR/><BR/>God bless him.<BR/><BR/>Are you listening, Reps. Bosma, Bauer, et al? Sens. Miller, Howard, et al? Mitch? Bart?<BR/><BR/>Here's a public servant who "gets" it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-378700935092829022007-07-13T18:56:00.000-05:002007-07-13T18:56:00.000-05:00Dysfunction and obfuscation, meet Wilson. Defendi...Dysfunction and obfuscation, meet Wilson. Defending an indefensible position. Makes me dizzy...<BR/><BR/>Center Township voters had a choice last May, to select a qualified, certified appraiser. The Center Township gulag didn't like her, because they couldn't control her, and they backed Mr. Akers. Who had ZERO property experience. NONE whatsoever.<BR/><BR/>He also had the uncommon bad sense to resist resigning his IPS janitorial job for weeks after he took over as Center assessor in January. Which should give you some idea of his objectivity and altruism. Public service indeed.<BR/><BR/>All township assessors ratified, this spring, the work (largely) done by their predecessors. It's all a house of cards; work performed by underpaid and underqualified staff persons.<BR/><BR/>The work product is sloppy, albeit unintended...inconsistency rules.<BR/><BR/>One more reason we need to dump this insane township government system. It costs money, regardles show some claim it's "only" 1.5% of the total bill, or some such nonsense. It's still millions across the county.<BR/><BR/>One elected county assessor, overseeing professionally-done assessments...will be expensive, but if we continue this insane and unconstitutional property tax system, it is the only way to go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4944375351311312042007-07-13T18:20:00.000-05:002007-07-13T18:20:00.000-05:00The Center Township reassessment was done under th...The Center Township reassessment was done under the leadership of the PREVIOUS Center Township Assessor who'd been in office for 24 years. Akers merely signed off on those results after he took office on January 1st, 2007.Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-49150493985085681822007-07-13T18:04:00.000-05:002007-07-13T18:04:00.000-05:00Wilson, If we didn't have a goof Democrat Assessor...Wilson, If we didn't have a goof Democrat Assessor, we wouldn't be in this mess. Not only did he screw this up terribly (actually performing the Democrat TAX & SPEND dream perfectly), but now we TAXPAYERS have to pay for his litigation expenses to defend the law suit WE TAXPAYERS filed against him!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-4521890156559653622007-07-13T17:59:00.000-05:002007-07-13T17:59:00.000-05:00FYI: reassessments are actually done by commercial...FYI: reassessments are actually done by commercial "outside" companies that specialize in such massive undertakings. Local Assessors and their small staffs simply cant perform these rare and large projects. Needless to say, reassessments arent cheap either. Nor are they speedy!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-21751665447252070232007-07-13T17:57:00.000-05:002007-07-13T17:57:00.000-05:00I have a wild idea: Why doesn't the mayor start c...I have a wild idea: <BR/><BR/>Why doesn't the mayor start charging the Mexican government fair-market rent for the space they use at Union Station?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com