tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post680398327924856903..comments2024-03-13T14:53:25.892-05:00Comments on Advance Indiana™: Star Bias For Carson All Too ApparentGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger128125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-91975321556962503602008-01-23T09:22:00.000-05:002008-01-23T09:22:00.000-05:00Wilson46201 said... "BEFORE Julia Carson was Trust...Wilson46201 said... <BR/>"BEFORE Julia Carson was Trustee, Center Township did indeed send some of their clients to Ms. Carson's store with vouchers for clothes at a pre-negotiated price. Sadly, her clothing store went under in the late 1980s."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Wilson you hypocrite. <BR/>Why is it OK for Julia Carson to have failed in business and go on to Congress? <BR/>You rant and rave about other’s attempts within the business world when they try and fail and you call them unqualified. <BR/>You just admitted that county trustee clients were sent to Carson's shop. An honest guy enters the business world, works hard without county handouts and fails and you cry foul and declare him unqualified. <BR/>Carson enters the business world, fails while receiving a county handout and you sing her praises and you tout her qualifications. The businessman is a skilled indivugial with a degree and you chastise and call him unqualified. Carson only skills were political connections (she was a state rep while she had the store) she had a high school diploma and you sing praises about her qualification anywhere someone will listen.<BR/>So please tell me, how can Carson fail and be declared a saint by you but when a well-known local businessman fails you do everything but call him Satan.<BR/>Please if you can, make some since of this.indyerniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03817373902728915873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-32833956071227140772008-01-23T06:40:00.000-05:002008-01-23T06:40:00.000-05:00Poor Jocelyn..those of us who know her ..know that...Poor Jocelyn..those of us who know her ..know that it will not be long before her hate, venom, lies and rage will be directed to someone else. Jocelyn never lets truth get in her way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-23836965640283018142008-01-22T23:37:00.000-05:002008-01-22T23:37:00.000-05:00BEFORE Julia Carson was Trustee, Center Township d...BEFORE Julia Carson was Trustee, Center Township did indeed send some of their clients to Ms. Carson's store with vouchers for clothes at a pre-negotiated price. Sadly, her clothing store went under in the late 1980s. She became Trustee in 1991 and she owned NO clothing store then. Of course, Jocelyn Tandy has been busy spreading the oft-debunked lie that Ms. Carson owned that vendor in the 1990s. Jocelyn demanded and received thousands of pages of documents from the Trustee's Office and could never make a case. Still, truth and honesty never stopped Jocelyn Tandy from her obsessive jihad of slime and slander against Julia Carson.<BR/><BR/>The Congresslady is dead but Jocelyn just wont give up her hatred. Kinda sad, really...Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-85700771674725345502008-01-22T21:51:00.000-05:002008-01-22T21:51:00.000-05:00"Stubborn pride or genuine bewilderment over her r..."Stubborn pride or genuine bewilderment over her retail shop not making it...I don't know what motivated her."<BR/><BR/>Is this the same shop where center township poor folks were instructed to shop with township vouchers?<BR/>I thought that this shop was fiction or this shop was someone else’s. Imagine that, misled again. Carson had the shop after all. Sorry but this adds creditability to the other allegations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-21576547799797927622008-01-22T21:18:00.000-05:002008-01-22T21:18:00.000-05:00You are correct, Gary, about the city bill for cle...You are correct, Gary, about the city bill for cleaning up her lot. And she did try to blame it on Goldsmith. Which, frankly, wasn't too difficult--at the time, Goldsmith had exactly three friends in town, two of them rented.<BR/><BR/>As Susan Williams aptly coined him: "Ambition in a suit." What a complete egocentric tool.<BR/><BR/>But I digress.<BR/><BR/>The people who recall this sorry state of Carson finances, make it sound as if the property cleanup situation covered a long period of time. In fact, it was during the time in which she was contacting creditors, making repayment arrangments with many of them, and it all lasted maybe five or six months.<BR/><BR/>Which, if you think about it, in a bankruptcy or similar situation, isn't a really long time. It just so happens she didn't pay attention to her property taxes while she was trying to make debt payment arrangements. <BR/><BR/>It was a stupid error, but I'm not so sure, under the same circumstances, I wouldn't have done the same thing. I ain't perfect.<BR/><BR/>The Beech Grove lawyer thing could've happened, but I seriously doubt it. There were debts, some of them large. She negotiated many, if not all, and repaid the ones she negotiated. Over several years.<BR/><BR/>It would've been easier to file bankruptcy, frankly. But to my knowledge, she didn't. Stubborn pride or genuine bewilderment over her retail shop not making it...I don't know what motivated her.<BR/><BR/>She was a puzzlement. A mystery wrapped in a riddle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-5984530055127872832008-01-22T20:31:00.000-05:002008-01-22T20:31:00.000-05:00I don't know what this Beech Grove lawyer story is...I don't know what this Beech Grove lawyer story is supposed to be about, but it is a fact that Carson allowed an abandoned property she owned near her home on Park Avenue to fall into disrepair and which eventually became the neigbhorhood crack house. Carson disobeyed compliance orders to clean up the place. Eventually, the City, using taxpayer dollars, demolished the building and cleaned up the lot. Carson was billed for the clean-up costs. She initially refused to pay the bill until the media picked up the story and started to write about it. She paid the bill but not without blaming it on Mayor Goldsmith's administration.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-89909442769866684912008-01-22T20:23:00.000-05:002008-01-22T20:23:00.000-05:00The "Beech Grove lawyer" story is a brand-new Joce...The "Beech Grove lawyer" story is a brand-new Jocelyn Tandy fabrication. She constantly has been making stuff up and then challenges others to "prove me wrong"!!! That poor woman is obsessive against Julia Carson, even after death...<BR/><BR/>Jocelyn, provide a court case number for your lie or shut up!Wilson46201https://www.blogger.com/profile/14214029150233485312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-62643629143553182422008-01-22T20:07:00.000-05:002008-01-22T20:07:00.000-05:00Look, Simon, I've been around Democratic politics ...Look, Simon, I've been around Democratic politics for almost three decades. I've heard all the Julia stories, some of them pretty damned ugly. I was involved in the party and know some of them better than most of the folks posting here.<BR/><BR/>But this Beech Grove lawyer/judgment thing is brand new stuff. Never heard it before. I asked two political friends by e-mail today, and neither of them have heard of it, either.<BR/><BR/>And I guess I have a slightly different standard of civility. If you make an ugly accusation, you need to justify it with oh, just a few facts.<BR/><BR/>Again--I could be wrong about the Beech Grove lawyer thing. The person who posted the rumor evidently cannot provide even a shred of evidence or information.<BR/><BR/>Which makes it, frankly, bunk.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I'm voting for Elrod. Just so you know I'm not a complete sycophant. Because I like my candidates to have some kind of experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-52609824177942103462008-01-22T18:39:00.000-05:002008-01-22T18:39:00.000-05:006:18 the truthful troll isn't required to provide ...6:18 the truthful troll isn't required to provide facts, there could be reasons why he/she won‘t. <BR/>I've heard the same allegations. Where’s Wilson and Erin? Don't you find it odd that the Carson diehards aren't adding to this discourse? If there wasn’t some truth to these charges those close to Carson would speak out. I can see some validity in these charges. The question is, who’s going to do the research?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-62392060404080123792008-01-22T18:18:00.000-05:002008-01-22T18:18:00.000-05:00Truth Troll, which is an oxymoronic name consideri...Truth Troll, which is an oxymoronic name considering your posts, those who can simaltaneously read and reason, know you posted the Beech Grove attorney/Carson lawsuit-judgment thing. No, you don't have to do jack-crap about proving your points. But in civilized society, dropping a line like you did, into a relatively calm discussion, requires justification, proof or other data. It is not my job to prove your heresay. You're the one who mentioned it. Try to pay attention, and follow this basic logic. Cause you're starting to look kinda silly.<BR/><BR/>You apparently have no proof. You choose to rely on heresay and urban legend.<BR/><BR/>Ding-dong, indeed. I never said I was a Carson fan--I just said you need to type accurate facts into this blogspace or go away.<BR/><BR/>I think I even allowed, that I'd eat my words if you could produce proof. <BR/><BR/>Looks like you have none. Just had dinner, and I'm full anyway.<BR/><BR/>Looks like you're full of something, too.<BR/><BR/>The offer is still open. Produce some facts. You brought it up, genius.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-71719542621658090752008-01-22T17:56:00.000-05:002008-01-22T17:56:00.000-05:00"I will reveal my name and kiss your ass."You go W..."I will reveal my name and kiss your ass."<BR/><BR/>You go Wilson, I want to see that.<BR/>Think hard...come on... you can do it...oh wait, ass or face both the same. Wilson that makes you a butthead.indyerniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03817373902728915873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-26784502311697853252008-01-22T17:48:00.000-05:002008-01-22T17:48:00.000-05:00One message for Wilson, Wilson if you post any acc...One message for Wilson, Wilson if you post any accomplishment Carson has done for the community, Andre that is. I will reveal my name and kiss your ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-77998463902296719582008-01-22T16:51:00.000-05:002008-01-22T16:51:00.000-05:00Pity-Party for Wilson!1...2...3... Awwwwwww!Pity-Party for Wilson!<BR/>1...2...3... Awwwwwww!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-22774299031834617572008-01-22T16:35:00.000-05:002008-01-22T16:35:00.000-05:00It that you Wilson?Are you hiding from us again?Do...It that you Wilson?<BR/><BR/>Are you hiding from us again?<BR/><BR/>Does Andre have your tongue?<BR/><BR/>Did you get kicked to the curb Wilson?<BR/><BR/>Poor pitiful Wilson, so many crazy thoughts and nobody will listen... poor Wilson.indyerniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03817373902728915873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-8038200600185752482008-01-22T16:04:00.000-05:002008-01-22T16:04:00.000-05:00In what way has Andre cheated? He has worked hard ...<I>In what way has Andre cheated? He has worked hard to get where he is and other than vicious lies spread by the haters, there are no negatives about him.</I><BR/>Hi, Wilson! <BR/>Thought you didn't post "anonymously".<BR/>Just like you don't drive, huh?garyjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18141621101828080762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-26405089452888158222008-01-22T15:53:00.000-05:002008-01-22T15:53:00.000-05:00What evidence do you have that suggest he hasn't, ...What evidence do you have that suggest he hasn't, or better than that, the issue of the past slating process. He certainly has worked hard with no community experience, he doesn't even voice his comments in the council meeting. I wouldn't be to suprise if he never read any of the council resolution. Just cast a vote because it sounds good. Nota, do you see history begining to repeat itself. Poor voting records. Does that sounds like someone you know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-11388456405449621672008-01-22T15:32:00.000-05:002008-01-22T15:32:00.000-05:00In what way has Andre cheated? He has worked hard...In what way has Andre cheated? He has worked hard to get where he is and other than vicious lies spread by the haters, there are no negatives about him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-3834099619868155902008-01-22T14:03:00.000-05:002008-01-22T14:03:00.000-05:00To Advance Indiana.Gary,Looks like i stirred up a ...To Advance Indiana.<BR/>Gary,<BR/>Looks like i stirred up a hornets nest of here. I need to make my position clear. I volunteered to help take our city back from the corrupt politicians. That was my mission. Then, I met Greg Ballard. I then became involved in his campaign. I never ask for anything in return and never will. I'm just excited he won the election and is now the Mayor of Indianapolis.<BR/>I will support him because I believe he can make this city a better place for all of us.<BR/>I'm sorry to the few i upset. I know for a fact that around 350 true volunteers were at the firefighters union hall on December 30th to support Greg and he thanked them all for their hard work.Flipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056457877965174996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-57499054556148738692008-01-22T13:14:00.000-05:002008-01-22T13:14:00.000-05:00Jeffrey 12:14, I was always taught in order to be ...Jeffrey 12:14, I was always taught in order to be a champion, must have a history of battle victory, or fighting for a cause, standing up for injustice things of that nature. Why don't you tell us what make Andre a champion without fighting. Do you see the logic and do understand the reasoning. Post it and show us evidence that he is a champion, in order to become champion you must fight your ass off, not being rewarded something he hasn't earn. Right now is a wanta be champion, by cheating, and look what happens to cheaters. Marion Jones, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and the list goes on. You should tell him to get off the political steroids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-65130587396559938572008-01-22T12:26:00.000-05:002008-01-22T12:26:00.000-05:00"Thanks Andre for all that will do in Congress to ..."Thanks Andre for all that will do in Congress to help the people that matter."<BR/><BR/>Jeffrey which people matter?<BR/><BR/>Democrats?<BR/>Whites?<BR/>Blacks?<BR/>Poor? Rich?<BR/>Only those with your views?<BR/>Please define "the people that matter".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-44508657428368187942008-01-22T12:14:00.000-05:002008-01-22T12:14:00.000-05:00This year Democrats will prevail when they stick t...This year Democrats will prevail when they stick to the issues of the war, the economy and the environment. Their record on all these issues is much better for working people.<BR/><BR/>Andre Carson is a champion of all these issues and will represent the 7th District well.<BR/><BR/>There is a lot of petty talk here on the blog, which makes interesting reading, but I would suggest keeping a focus on the big picture.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Andre for all that will do in Congress to help the people that matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-48420583084773690442008-01-22T10:45:00.000-05:002008-01-22T10:45:00.000-05:0011:17 who left you in charge? I don’t have to do d...11:17 who left you in charge? I don’t have to do didley.<BR/>Do your own research. The attorney is still practicing.<BR/>The only urban myth is the one in your head. The one repeated across Indianapolis. You know the same one that amplifies Julia Carson as a beacon of light, truth, justice and the savior of all who lived in the 7th.<BR/>The facts are, Julia Carson was a deadbeat who prospered off of the hard work and labor of others.<BR/>Now quit drinking the kool-aid and open your eyes. <BR/>To quote the Wizard of Oz “Ding-Dong“.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-34459871340582082222008-01-22T05:18:00.000-05:002008-01-22T05:18:00.000-05:0011:17: you strongly implied the party or its top o...11:17: you strongly implied the party or its top officials were involved with a repayment of one of Julia's debts:<BR/><BR/> " also know that Carson lost the case and I know that Julia never attempted to pay the judgment. Democrat party officials intervened and paid the debt."<BR/><BR/>I was involved with the party, and unless these folks to whom you refer conducted a huge grand conspiracy, it did not happen.<BR/><BR/>You also indicate that you hope Gary will investigate and report his findings here.<BR/><BR/>You are the poster who made this oft-repeated charge, without substantiation. You repeated an urban myth and you've been called out. It's up to you, not the blogmaster, to name this "Beech Grove lawyer", name the case, name the amount of money, and come up with some specifics.<BR/><BR/>It's getting old, frankly. Put up or shut up. I am perfectly capable of eating my words. I could be wrong. I will gladly recall my remarks if necessary.<BR/><BR/>But not on such flimsy proof.<BR/><BR/>Stick to facts, please. Throwing word bombs in a chat room or on a blog is highly irresponsible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-39200716072934009762008-01-22T04:02:00.000-05:002008-01-22T04:02:00.000-05:00Regarding Grag Ballard rewarding volunteers; the $...Regarding Grag Ballard rewarding volunteers; the $ 1000.00 was in reality a reimbursement for gas for the months that the volunteers drove Greg Ballard around. Greg Ballard actually promised that the same volunteer drivers would be drivers and part of his security staff when he took office. After Greg Ballard was elected he called in the same volunteer drivers, gave them a check and told them he would not be needing them any more. Greg Ballard then started using new drivers sent to him by Carl Brizzi, none of which were visible publically supporting Greg Ballard before he was elected. They waited until the victory was won and rushed in to claim the spoils? COWARDS!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-2230395738862003392008-01-22T03:48:00.000-05:002008-01-22T03:48:00.000-05:00To Advance Indiana: Thank you for your comments on...To Advance Indiana: Thank you for your comments on Greg Ballard, his political appointments and the manner that he disrespected those who worked to get him elected. He is probably the coldest and most ungrateful politician that I have ever met. I am happy that Bart Peterson was defeated but certainly wish that we had elected an honest person as our new mayor! Unfortunately, We did not!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com