tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post2674817647306667091..comments2024-03-25T13:42:25.771-05:00Comments on Advance Indianaâ„¢: CIB Annual Shortfall Now Pegged At $50 MillionGary R. Welshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-6922601140525891702009-02-08T14:13:00.000-05:002009-02-08T14:13:00.000-05:00The whole downtown is a Ponzi scheme; the Conrad,L...The whole downtown is a Ponzi scheme; the Conrad,LOS, Marriot, and Convention Center expansion are just the latest. Government can run Ponzi schemes much longer because of their ability to raise taxes and unfortunately because we don not make them accountable for their actions. We just accept what they say, without question. <BR/><BR/>Remember, government officials always lie; the only question is how big is the lie.Citizen Kanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17083803017411939029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-1801212093954618502009-02-08T03:58:00.000-05:002009-02-08T03:58:00.000-05:00Mary Jo is obviously too afraid to sign his real n...Mary Jo is obviously too afraid to sign his real name. Mary Jo wishes he had half the kahunas you and Paul possess. <BR/>.<BR/>Gary, thanks for being so pro 1st Amendment. Something tells me that is far less than "Mary Jo" would extend a citizen.M Theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892309818226431745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-16196516067093454052009-02-07T20:18:00.000-05:002009-02-07T20:18:00.000-05:00AI, thanks for having my back. "Mary Jo," howeve...AI, thanks for having my back. "Mary Jo," however, is but a flea on my back that is easily flicked off . "She" does provide entertainment fodder, however.Paul K. Ogdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16137003328850866711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-42995495177369988782009-02-07T18:47:00.000-05:002009-02-07T18:47:00.000-05:00Mary Jo, And I know that is not your real name, I ...Mary Jo, And I know that is not your real name, I reluctantly even allow you to post a comment, particularly one that links the anonymous blog you are publishing for the sole purpose of discrediting Paul Ogden. I suspect you are being paid by someone to write that blog, and I find the fact that you are doing it anonymously the ultimate in cowardice. If someone wants to go to that much trouble to discredit a person's professionaly credibility, then he or she should be publicly identified so that those who read your blog can judge your objectivity, particularly since the whole theme of your blog is that Ogden has his own hidden agenda. I screen and reject many comments posted to this blog to prevent drive-by, anonymous hit artists. Some other blogs allow anonymous commenters to say anything defamatory they want about another person and then accept no responsibility for the comments. In some cases, I believe the actual blogger for that site is posting the vicious comments to his own blog and pretending someone else made them, which is pretty sleazy all around.Gary R. Welshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185079937305083438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-44352975281821932312009-02-07T17:42:00.000-05:002009-02-07T17:42:00.000-05:00Gary, I will say you are at least inteleectually h...Gary, I will say you are at least inteleectually honest by stating that having these franchises period is a bad deal for taxpayers, not that we agree with it. But it is a consistent and legitimate opinion, so kudos.<BR/><BR/>http://www.ogdentruthsquad.blogspot.com/Mary Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03060915736751009448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-8658516993699196972009-02-07T10:39:00.000-05:002009-02-07T10:39:00.000-05:00Remember how the story went two years ago?http://w...Remember how the story went two years ago?<BR/><BR/>http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/showthread.php?t=23624<BR/><BR/>Fred Glass: 'There is no plan B'<BR/><BR/>Bart Peterson: considering the issue and expects a solution will be found<BR/><BR/>Fred Glass: "I'm confident this will be solved, because the money's there to solve it and the consequences of not solving it are too dire for everyone"<BR/><BR/>Both are now out of the picture of course and it's somebody else's problem to deal with. And actually it's 5 times worse than what they were telling us it was.Downtown Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239811599722585898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12703782.post-19707769813980426432009-02-07T10:11:00.000-05:002009-02-07T10:11:00.000-05:00My God this is appalling.I had long considered eit...My God this is appalling.<BR/><BR/>I had long considered either incompetence or dishonesty as the source of the financial woes. Clearly, though, it is both!<BR/><BR/>You cannot become $50M in the hole suddenly and without knowing it back when the problem was much smaller.<BR/><BR/>Everyone involved with the two stadiums, from concept to construction to operation, need to be held accountable and severely penalized.<BR/><BR/>We have been constantly reassured that this is an economic boon for all of us. Yet when the curtain is pulled back, time and time again we see somebody needs more tax money to make it work.<BR/><BR/>Since the earliest days of the LOS I have labelled it a Ponzi scheme. There's always been someone there to poo-poo that and chastize me for wanting a dead city and cornfields. Yet those critics seem to have evaporated as the problems have grown.<BR/><BR/>Once again, the 'solution' being floated is taxes. And still the near-total giveaways to the primary tenants is held sacred.<BR/><BR/>This has to stop. All the blood has been squeezed from us poor turnips. It's clear the economic impact figures have always been a lie to sway public opinion. <BR/><BR/>Now we're screwed and the new tactic seems to be 'these are tough times and we all will have to make sacrifices to get through them.' Will that include Irsay and Simon? I'm betting it won't.Downtown Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06239811599722585898noreply@blogger.com